Public Talks/Events

Keynotes, Lectures, Conference Presentations, Festivals, Book Launches, Exhibitions, etc.

“Towards the Decolonization of Money.” 14 Apr. 2023, Society of Cinema and Media Studies, Denver, CO.

“Ishmael Bernal and the Legacy of Martial Law: Introduction to Himala.” 13 Feb. 2023, University of the Philippines Diliman. Talk with Neferti Tadiar. www.facebook.com/upfifilmcenter/posts/pfbid05QmNsLnUNsXx65FVa1HBKazyZcv1tPU3NyHbXwhrgrA3YABYww81kRvMNzPwquZrl.

“The World Computer.” 13 Feb. 2023, University of the Philippines Diliman. Book talk. www.facebook.com/upfifilmcenter/posts/pfbid05QmNsLnUNsXx65FVa1HBKazyZcv1tPU3NyHbXwhrgrA3YABYww81kRvMNzPwquZrl.

“Life in Pixels: Seb Franklin and Jonathan Beller.” 14 Mar. 2022, Lucy Family Institute for Data and Society, Notre Dame. Book talk. vimeo.com/692364781.

“Poetry Against Calamity: Decolonial Ecography and Post-capitalist Economic Media.” 9 Mar. 2022, Digital Democracy Institute, Simon Fraser University, CA. digitaldemocracies.org/jonathan-beller-poetry-against-calamity-decolonial-ecography-and-post-capitalist-economic-media.

“Protocols for Cryptoeconomic Networks.” 26 Oct. 2021, diffrakt collective, Berlin.

“Aesthetics of Survival: A situation derived from The World Computer.” Graduate Program in Media Studies, 27 Sep. 2021, Pratt Institute.

“Economic Media: On the Decolonization of Money.” Decoding Bias. 12 June 2021. Goethe Institute, San Francisco, City Lights Books, Gray Area. www.youtube.com/watch?v=kZxRWAibudM.

“Radical potential of the NFT?” 26 Mar. 2021. MoneyLab Berlin. Online. moneylab-berlin.de/schedule/friday-march-26th-2021.

“The World Computer.” 12 Dec. 2020, Economic Media Reading Group, New School for Social Research. Book talk webinar. www.youtube.com/watch?v=ypEOWkp_vcg.

“From the World Computer to Post-Capitalist Economic Media?” 21 Oct 2020, Institute of Culture and Art, Miami. Lecture. www.youtube.com/watch?v=ypEOWkp_vcg.

“Computational Racial Capitalism.” 19-20 Oct. 2020, Institute of Culture and Art, Miami. Seminars. icamiami.org/seminar/jonathan-beller.

“Communist Money.” 12 Oct. 2020, The Blockchain Socialist. Interview. theblockchainsocialist.com/one-weird-trick-to-finance-the-revolution-feat-jonathan-beller.

Photo from Stanford Modern Thought and Literature.

“The World Computer.” Modern Thought, 9 Oct. 2020, Stanford University. Webinar. mtl.stanford.edu/events/jonathan-beller-talk-world-computer-derivative-conditions-racial-capitalism.

“Economic Media.” Moneylab #9, 19 Sep. 2020, Helsinki. Keynote panel with Geert Lovink and Akseli Virtanen. vimeo.com/481679974.

“Informatic Labor and the Derivative Condition.” 28 July 2020, New School of Social Research.

“Of Social Death in General: A Response to Max Liljefors, Gregor Noll and Daniel Steuer’s War and Algorithm.” 5 Mar. 2020, NYU Steinhardt. Book launch.

“A Peer2Peer Value Creation Platform.” Crypto-economics Conference, 5-6 Oct. 2019, Massachusetts Institute of Technology. www.youtube.com/watch?v=99Qdb9n2070.

“ArtWork for the End of Racial Capitalism.” 23 July 2019, International Conference on Aesthetics, Belgrade, Serbia. Plenary talk. www.academia.edu/40401145/21st_International_Congress_of_Aesthetics_Possible_Worlds_of_Contemporary_Aesthetics_Aesthetics_Between_History_Geography_and_Media_Book_of_Abstracts.

“Token Ledger as Archive.” 5 May 2019, Haus der Statistik, Berlin. Talk.

“Some Reflections on The Animatic Apparatus.” 26 Mar. 2019, The New School, New York. Book launch talk for Deborah Levitt. www.facebook.com/events/577016566131752.

“ArtWork for the End of Racial Capitalism.” 18 Mar. 2019, School of Visual Arts, New York. Talk.

“Network Derivatives and Attentional Archives.” 11-13 Mar. 2019. ECSA and Haus der Statistik, Berlin Germany.

“Qualitative Derivatives.” MoneyLab #6, 8-9 Mar. 2019, Institute for Network Cultures, Seigen, Germany. vimeo.com/showcase/6025581/video/339139856.

“Present Archives, Ephemeral Commons.” 9 Mar. – 9 Apr. 2019. Alfredo F. Tadiar Library, San Fernando, La Union, Philippines. Photography exhibition co-curated with Neferti Tadiar. www.facebook.com/events/301862897130462. www.facebook.com/puonbookshop/posts/pfbid0g7cmLiJdA2CCrkRQLMpdZe69CFFTGrp6sB6HC1gEMvwNmE2b5qouKPudARbguhMtl. www.facebook.com/puonbookshop/photos/a.998225446947180/1657182494384802.

Photo from Fotomuseum Winterthur, Situation #156.

“Photographic Derivatives and Informatic Labor.” Situations Conference, 9 Dec. 2018, Fotomuseum, Winterthure Switzerland. Paper presentation. www.youtube.com/watch?v=D29DjMvMAq0.

“Photography, Information and Museumography.” 8 Dec. 2018, Fotomusuem, Winterthure, Switzerland. Seminar.

“To Look is to Labor.” 8 Dec. 2018 – 17 Feb. 2019, Fotomuseum Winterthure, Switzerland. Museum exhibition based on The Cinematic Mode of Production. www.fotomuseum.ch/en/cluster/19. www.fotomuseum.ch/en/events-post/launch-von-situations-to-look-is-to-labor__trashed.

“Camera Obscura After All.” 1 Dec. 2018, Racial Literacies Group, UNC Chapel Hill. Seminar. racialliteracies.web.unc.edu/2018/11/next-meeting-friday-november-20-as-130pm-in-toy-lounge.

“The Derivative Condition.” Graduate Program in Literature, 30 Nov. 2018, Duke University. Lecture.

“The Message is Murder: Informatic Labor in the Age of Computational Capital.” Political Economy and Culture Research Workshop, 23 Oct. 2018, State University of New York, Buffalo. humanitiesinstitute.buffalo.edu/event/political-economy-and-culture-research-workshop-jonathan-beller-the-message-is-murder-informatic-labor-in-the-age-of-computational-capital.

“Qualitative Derivative Finance.” Cryptoeconomics Working Session 2: Derivatives as the Key to Understanding Distributed Applications (aka Tokens), 17 May 2018, NYU Stern School of Business, Henry Kaufman Management Center. docs.google.com/document/d/1Ld1BBFUGmiqWPjbRlKdEfGGcHiw_KFwYigGqc1geBpo/edit?fbclid=IwAR1JwllNQN1oAu1BrJUWgnE3MbIgFwkFTC0q2R48jrFQWrjERun9CdAs1Aw

“Blockchain as Social Media.” Cryptoeconomics Working Session 1: What is a Token?, 16 May 2018, NYU Stern School of Business, Henry Kaufman Management Center. docs.google.com/document/d/1Ld1BBFUGmiqWPjbRlKdEfGGcHiw_KFwYigGqc1geBpo/edit?fbclid=IwAR1JwllNQN1oAu1BrJUWgnE3MbIgFwkFTC0q2R48jrFQWrjERun9CdAs1Aw.

“Derivative Living and Archival Strategy.” 20 Apr. 2018, Divisão de Arquivo Municipal – Videoteca, Lisboa. web.archive.org/web/20200924185043/http://arquivomunicipal.cm-lisboa.pt/pt/eventos/o-que-e-o-arquivo/laboratorio-2/programa. www.facebook.com/oqueeoarquivo/posts/pfbid036G1x94jQNUx9TetUAmfVytZ48mzy5C2g9WSAxnwCCo8e6uLfAuqHLc98XdqKAdL5l.

“The Derivative Machine: Notes on the Cinema.” Cinelab/IFILNOVA, 19 Apr. 2018, University of Portugal, Lisbon. ifilnova.pt/en/events/cinema-philosophy.

Kim, David. “I, The Artwork: A Conversation with Yazan Khalili.” eflux Journal #90, Apr. 2018, Conversation participant. www.e-flux.com/journal/90/191401/i-the-artwork-a-conversation-with-yazan-khalili.

“Derivative Living and the Potentials of Radical Finance” Geomediations, Mar. 2018, Society of Cinema and Media Studies, Toronto. Panel. cdn.ymaws.com/www.cmstudies.org/resource/resmgr/2018_conference/SCMS2018Iprogram-no_rooms.pdf.

Photo from transmediale.

“Cyber-social architectures.” Transmediale, 4 Feb. 2018, Berlin. Closing panel. archive.transmediale.de/content/confronting-social-cybernetics. www.youtube.com/watch?v=9MnHY2uTt_M.

“Derivative Living.” Transmediale, 2 Feb. 2018, Berlin. Keynote address. archive.transmediale.de/program/event/derivative-living. www.youtube.com/watch?v=k69E7seGQ_g.

“‘Self-issuance’ and Anarcho-communist Cryptographic Currencies.” Manipulate the World: Connecting Öyvind Fahlström exhibition, 21 Jan. 2018, Moderna Museet, Stockholm. www.youtube.com/watch?v=2VYBNI075Qo.

“Finance as an Expressive Medium.” 20 Jan. 2018, Swedish School of Economics, Stockholm.

Bonita Ely, The Locust People, 1974. Pencil on paper. Photo from e-flux.

“Platform Communism.” Toxic Assets Conference, 19-22 Oct. 2017, Columbia University and e-flux, New York. frontierimaginaries.org/content/editions/3-edition-3/3-toxic/folder_fa_nocropmarks.pdf.

“Cryptocurrency and Radical Finance.” Cryptocurrency and Its Discontents, 27 Sept. 2017, e-flux, New York. www.e-flux.com/events/155336/cryptocurrency-and-its-discontents.

“Financialization and Its Discontents.” 26 Sep. 2017, Pratt Institute. www.facebook.com/events/1596639043733674.

“A New Money Form?” Geo-media, 16 June 2017, Mediamatic, Amsterdam. Workshop. sites.google.com/view/geomediations/meetings.

“Radical Finance.” 13 Jun. 2017, Academy of Fine Arts Vienna. www.akbild.ac.at/de/institute/bildende-kunst/veranstaltungen/vortrage-events/2017/the-programmable-image-some-implications.

“The Message is Murder.” Global South Center Conference, 3 Mar. 2017, Pratt Institute. Talk. www.facebook.com/globalsouthcenter/photos/a.1240961446030289/1240961346030299. www.facebook.com/globalsouthcenter/photos/a.1259875070805593/1259875234138910.

“The Image and Digital Labor.” The Image exhibit and lecture series, 15 Dec. 2016, Art Center Miami. Culminating program.

“The Programmable Image.” I ‘Heart’ Pop Conference, 10 Nov. 2016, CUNY Graduate Center. Keynote address. cunypop.wordpress.com/2016/09/25/i-%e2%9d%a4%ef%b8%8f-pop.

“Questions from the Real.” 30 Apr. 2016, New York University. Book launch of Allen Feldman’s Archives of the Insensible with Talal Asad, Drucilla Coronell, Nick Mirzoeff, Avital Ronell and Allen Feldman. socialtextjournal.org/periscope_topic/degrounding-war-and-the-state.

“Seeing Through Abstraction.” Imag(in)ing Sex in the Brain, Columbia University, 21 Mar. 2016. Panel for Presidential Scholars in Society and Neuroscience. www.youtube.com/watch?v=g80Z98p5l0Q. www.youtube.com/watch?v=7qoQOqVIK2k.

“The Computational Unconscious.” New Political Materials, 26-28 Mar. 2015, American Comparative Literature Association, Seattle, WA. Panel. www.acla.org/sites/default/files/files/Full_Program_Guide_2015.pdf

“Texas-(s)ized Postmodernism.” Forum on Postmodernism, 21 Feb. 2015, Social Text Research Cluster, New School. Paper presentation.

“Workshop on USACBI and BDS.” 5 Feb. 2015, Vera List Center, New School and Cabinet Magazine. Workshop participant. www.veralistcenter.org/events/considering-palestine-israel-what-does-the-boycott-mean.

“The Computational Unconscious.” 8 Dec. 2014, King’s College, London. Lecture. www.facebook.com/kingsenglishdpt/posts/839544426068345.

“The Computational Unconscious.” The Unconscious of the Unconscious, part of Film Mutations, 4 Dec. 2014, Zagreb. Keynote speech. www.youtube.com/watch?v=Whn_TZ9dyw4.

“Realism Beyond Realism.” Film Mutations, 1-8 Dec. 2014, Zagreb. Film festival curator. havc.hr/infocentar/novosti/pocinju-filmske-mutacije-osmi-festival-nevidljivog-filma.

“Digital Specters of Communism.” 23 Mar. 2014, Society of Cinema and Media Studies, Seattle, WA. cdn.ymaws.com/www.cmstudies.org/resource/resmgr/2014_Conference/SCMS_2014_INT-web_archive.pdf.

“Computational Capital.” Film Mutations Conference, 5 Dec. 2013, Zagreb.

“Image-Code-Financialization.” NECS European Media Studies Conference, 20-22 June 2013, Prague, Czech Republic. 6 Nov. 2013, George Mason University. Keynote address. www.ff.cuni.cz/2013/07/necs-2.

“Pathologistics of Attention.” The Psychopathology of Cognitive Capitalism Conference, 8-9 Nov. 2012, California Institute of the Arts. Talk. 8-9 Nov. 2012, University of Southern California. Talk. www.e-flux.com/announcements/109079/the-psychopathologies-of-cognitive-capitalism. Apr. 2013, Canadian Association of Applied Linguistics (ACLA). Paper presentation.

“Advertisarial Relations and Aesthetics of Survival.” Actionable Image: Agency of Image, Performance of Body, Apparatus of Spectating Conference, 2012, La Mama, Zagreb Croatia. www.badco.hr/en/news-item/actionable-image.

“Materializing the Invisible: The Media of History.” 25 Apr. 2011, Columbia University. University seminar. universityseminars.columbia.edu/wp-content/uploads/2011/08/ColumbiaSeminars_Directory2011_72.pdf.

“From Wage to Wager: Visuality and the Form of Value.” 1 Apr. 2011, Center for Labor, Technology and Subjectivity, CUNY Graduate Center. Lecture.

“Labor, Attention, Digitality.” 30 Mar. 2011, New School for Social Research. Lecture. www.socialdifference.columbia.edu/events-1/labor

“Rise of Visuality and the Transformation of Labor and the Form of Value.” Keywords Series: “Labor,” 9 Feb. 2011, Center for the Critical Analysis of Social Difference, Columbia University.

“Forward to Class: Class Formations in the Capitalist Media Environment.” 23 Aug. 2010, University of the Philippines Diliman.

“The Media of Dispossession.” 8 Apr. 2010, New School for Social Research.

“The Evisceration of the Sign.” Global Capitalism/Histories of Oppression, 23 Feb. 2010, apexart, New York. apexart.org/events/grzinic.php.

“The Digital Ideology.” The Internet as Playground and Factory: Conference on Digital Labor, 12-14 Nov. 2009, The New School, New York. youtu.be/3WjorEAIExs?si=Z6YKLOCcrpUdN7Kl&t=1713.

“The Martial Art of Cinema: Modes of Virtuosity a la Hong Kong and the Philippines.” Graduate Program in Literature Alumni lecture series, 22-23 Jan. 2009, Duke University, Durham, NC. Lecture and seminar.

“The Martial Art of Cinema: Modes of Virtuosity a la Hong Kong and the Philippines.” 15 Dec. 2008, Ljubljana, Slovenia. www.anthampton.com/True_Riches_low.pdf

“Cinematicity and Choreography.” The Cinematic Mode of Choreography Conference, 13 Dec. 2008, East Dance Academy and La Mama, Zagreb, Croatia. Keynote address.

“Camera Obscura After All: The Racist Writing With Light.” Center for the Critical Analysis of Social Difference Conference: Seeing Race, 30 Oct. 2008, Columbia University.

“Materialist Analysis of the Visible.” Congress of Teachers /Educators for Nationalism and Democracy (CONTEND), 14-15 Aug. 2008, University of the Philippines Diliman. Lecture and seminar. rolandotolentino.wordpress.com/2008/08/12/neferti-tadiar-and-jonathan-beller-seminars-contend-lecture-series-12-14-aug-2008.

“Mediology and the Dissertation Proposal.” 11 Aug. 2008, Ateneo de Manila University. PhD workshop.

“Iterations of the Impossible.” Kritika Kultura lecture series, 8 Aug. 2008, Ateneo de Manila University.

“Aesthetics and Politics of the Posthuman.” 28 May 2008, Visual Praxis Collective, University of Washington. Seminar.

“Iterations of the Impossible.” 27 May 2008, Visual Praxis Collective, University of Washington.

“Attention: The Archive.” Mellon Working Group: Networking Visual Cultures, University of Southern California, 2-3 May 2008.

“Iterations of the Impossible.” 18 Apr. 2008, New York University, King Carlos I Center.

“Visuality in the Maelstrom of the Digital.” 25 Jan 2008, New York University, Department of Media, Culture and Communication.

“The Cinematic Mode of Production.” 6 Nov. 2007, Goldsmiths. Seminar.

“Dziga Vertov’s Enthusiasm.” Historical Materialism Conference, 5 Nov. 2007, London.

“‘The America(n) Effect’: Abstract Expressionism Meets the School of the Americas.” Historical Materialism Conference, 5. Nov. 2007, London. users.wfu.edu/cottrell/ope/archive/0710/att-0250/01-HistoricalMaterialism2007ConferenceTimetableRevised.pdf.

“‘Visual Culture’ is the State of Emergency.” Oct. 2007, New York University, Visual Culture working group.

“Blogging for Dollars.” Visual Culture and Contemporary Media Conference, 20 Apr. 2007, New York University.

“The Status of Formalism.” 16 Apr. 2007, Pratt Institute. Panel discussion.

“Cinematic Mode of Production.” Critical and Visual Studies, 28 Feb. 2007, Pratt Institute. Roundtable discussion.

“The Martial Art of Cinema: Modes of Virtuosity a la Hong Kong and the Philippines.” 5 Feb. 2007, University of California, Santa Cruz.

“Farce, Political Killings and the Current Cultural Revolution.” 28 Jul. 2006, University of the Philippines Diliman.

“Philippine Realism in a Time of Farce.” 16 May 2006, University of Washington, Seattle. Roundtable discussion. jsis.washington.edu/csead//wp-content/uploads/sites/7/2016/09/Winter-2006-Newsletter.pdf

“‘The America(n) Effect’: Abstract Expressionism Meets the School of the Americas.” 94th Annual College Art Association Conference, 24 Feb. 2006.

“The America(n) Effect.” Nineteenth Annual Conference, 19-21 Oct., 2005, Liberal Arts and the Education of Artists, School of Visual Arts.

“Resistance in Performance: Dance, Theater, and Politics.” Performing Ethnicity Conference, 17 Oct. 2004, City College of New York. Panel chair. web.archive.org/web/20041015130935/http://www.ma-yitheatre.org/part_schedule.html.

“Visual Culture as Counterrevolution.” Sponsored by CONTEND. 11 July 2004, Film Department, University of the Philippines Diliman.

“Remediating the Real: Postcolonial Visuality and Philippine Cinema.” 5 May 2004, University of California, Riverside.

“Cinema All the Way Down, Image and Critique.” 13-14 Sept. 2003, Lansing Art Center, University of Nottingham.

“Media of Global War.” 3 Apr. 2003, University of California, Santa Cruz. Teach-in.

“Legacy of Third Cinema.” 14 Feb. 2003, San Francisco State University.

“Metaphysics of the Cinema.” 17 July 2002, University of Otago, Dunedin, New Zealand.

“End (of) America!” Culture Against War: Philippines on the Axis of Empire, 6 Apr. 2002, University of California, Santa Cruz.

“The Capital of Innocence.” Post-9/11 media teach-in, Nov. 2011, University of California, Santa Cruz. currents.ucsc.edu/terrorist_crisis/visual_rhetoric_11-14.html.

“The Medium of War.” N to N Conference, Nov. 2001, University of California, Santa Cruz.

“Wires, papers, sounds: the hidden potentials of Ronaldo Lopes de Oliveira.” 27 Oct. 2000, bAsE gallery. Exhibition notes.

“Third Cinema in a Global Frame: Curacha, Yahoo! and Manila By Night.” 2 Mar. 2000, University of California, Riverside, Department of Ethnic Studies. Paper presentation. 28 Feb. 2000, SUNY Albany, Department of English. Paper presentation. 28 Jan. 2000, University of California, Santa Cruz. Junior faculty colloquium. New Asia Pacific Cinemas Conference, 8-9 Oct. 1999, University of California, Irvine.

“Missing the Cultural Revolution: ‘Culture’ as Mode of Production.” The State of Dissidence, 30 Sept. 1999, University of the Philippines Diliman.

“Literature, Media and Cultural Studies.” 8 Sept. 1999, Far Eastern University, Manila. isuperlibrarian-highereducation.blogspot.com/2007_02_01_archive.html.

“Third Cinema in a Global Frame.” 11 Feb. 1999, Film Department, University of California, Santa Barbara.

“Visual Transformations and Philippine Modernity: Nationalism’s Molten Prayer.” 2 Dec. 1998, Center for Cultural Studies, University of California, Santa Cruz. culturalstudies.ucsc.edu/1998/10/30/fall-1998-colloquium-series.

“Visuality as a Site of Production and Resistance.” Tatag Sining Congress for Visual Artists, 18-20 Sept. 1998, National Council for Culture and the Arts, Mayjayjay, Philippines.

“Mass Mediations: Domination and Resistance.” 11 July – 15 Aug. 1998, Communications Department, De La Salle University, Manila. Lecture series.

“Scenes and Spaces of American (Literary) Intervention.” ACELT Conference, 8 Aug. 1998, Ateneo de Manila University.

“Savage Acts: Wars Fairs and Empire.” 27 July 1998, College of Mass Communications, University of the Philippines Diliman. Responder.

“Cinema: The Highest Stage of Capital (to date).” Cultural Studies Symposium, 19 Oct. 1997, University of California, Santa Cruz. culturalstudies.ucsc.edu/category/cultural-studies-events/page/38. Berkeley Film & Video Consortium, 25 Oct. 1997, San Francisco Museum of Modern Art.

“A Freeze-Dried History of the Philippines: Gemo Tapales’ Exhibition of ‘Now and Then.’” 19-30 May 1997, Philippine Embassy, New York. Exhibition text with Neferti Tadiar.

“Conceptualizing the Visual Practices of H.R. Ocampo.” Critical Forum Venue, 28 Oct. 1996, University of the Philippines Diliman.

“The Shelf-life of Abstraction: Daniel Oliver’s ‘Series Mondrian.’” Nov. 1994, Lyons Wier Gallery, Chicago. Exhibition text.

“Ideology and Pedagogy of Globalization.” Comparative Area Studies Steering Committee Seminar, 16 Sept. 1994, Duke University.

“City of Television: Metropolitan Affects and the New Americanism.” New Metropolitan Forms Conference, 7-9 Apr. 1994, Duke University.

“Cinema, Capital of the Twentieth Century.” The Image of Technology, 10-13 Mar. 1994, University of Southern Colorado, Colorado Springs.

“Food for Hallucination, or, Meat Dreams.” Screening Latinidad: A Project on Media, Performance and Visual Culture, 4-5 Feb. 1994, Duke University. dukelibraries.contentdm.oclc.org/digital/api/collection/p15957coll13/id/95707/download.

“God, Shit, Sex and Syntax: The Formal Consequences of Radical Thought in Alternative Video.” July 1993, Mowelfund Film Institute, Manila.

“Towards a Dialectical Film of the Cinema (Books).” Deleuze Conference, 5-7 Mar. 1993, Program in Literature, Duke University.

“Alternative Video in the Southern Cone.” Twelfth Annual ILASSA Conference on Latin America, 6-8 Mar. 1992, University of Texas, Austin. With Neferti X. M. Tadiar.

“On the Emergent Visual Economy of Modernism.” Walter Benjamin and the Jetztzeit: 1892-1992, 21-22 Feb. 1992, Duke University.

“Desiring the Involuntary: Robocop 2.” Subversions, Feb. 1991, University of Colorado Boulder.

“Intervention in A Field of Dreams with Ariel Dorfman.” How We Learn History: The Past, The Classroom and Society, 1991, University of North Carolina, Chapel Hill. Video/talk.